[Cptzambie]

i agree with Ectheledhel ive seen this happen alot on the servers ive played on. Players that dont like pvp but go around insulting other pc's and try cause a war of words.

[MiladyMouse]

I will not take it personally as it is, sadly, a reality that I've seen also. Something I try to avoid as much as possible also. If someone does not like PvP they should not taunt others because they think they are safe. But unfortunately, this is not a perfect world. If I meet someone like that, I just walk away if possible.

in the end, as long as the pvp rules are clear, then everyone should be able to play by them.

Perhaps players can have an agreement between themselves that they want to pvp with each other but will leave others that do not want to alone? Might get complicated...

Sorry, I always try my best to find a middle ground in things 

[Xaerien]

Adding unmonitored pvp to the open world areas wouldn't fix that issue, if someone is dedicated to insulting while avoiding consequences they will find ways to continue doing such. Simply logging out or using the proclaimer within a populated no-pvp area are tactics that have already been used by such people and will continue to be used even if unsupervised pvp is enabled. Which would result in having to get a DM anyway to deal with such harassment.

[Grim]

Some people just get a kick from disrupting others game play and use PvP to do this, just because I don't like to do pvp doesn't mean I will run around insulting others I just don't like player conflict. I come here to have fun and some one constantly trying to provoke or force people into pvp is not something I enjoy.

[Gmork]

Our PvP rules are in place and will not be changed at any time in the foreseeable future. We had to make them as they are now because the community showed time and time again that they could not handle PvP in a positive and mature way. Until we see a change that shows this is no longer true, the rules as they are now will remain.

[Ectheledhel]

Grim, if that is the way you behave then you're not the problem. But a player being IC abusive constantly without consequence is just as disrupting to gameplay as a murder hobo. PvP has a time and place I believe but there are clearly problem players on both sides who abuse the rules. While this opinion may not cause a change in the rules regarding PvP I think it's important to recognise that from what little anecdotal information has been supplied here that the issue is not the rules or PvP but problem players who abuse the rules at the expense of others.

[SpiffyHas]

The Golden Rule:

Talk Shit, Get Hit.

The Silver Law:

Do unto Others, as you would have them do unto you.

AKA: Don't talk shit if you don't wanna get hit.

Simple, really.

[Cptzambie]

EXACTLY! couldn't of said it better myself!

[Empress of Neon]

Our PvP rules are in place and will not be changed at any time in the foreseeable future. We had to make them as they are now because the community showed time and time again that they could not handle PvP in a positive and mature way. Until we see a change that shows this is no longer true, the rules as they are now will remain.

I second to this. I've had people blatantly try to lie to dismiss the outcomes/legality of pvp situations in the past. Frankly, the server is guilty until proven otherwise as far as my book goes -.-

[Rose]

Someone had their familiar out in Hadrian harassing people and physically touching and bothering them and couldn't get a DM to smack it

[Empress of Neon]

No one should be abusing the pvp rules as a shield for antagonism that they might not otherwise do ig.

[Grim]

So report abuses to the dm's just because some one annoys you doesn't mean you should kill them use your words and there are laws.

[Empress of Neon]

That depends entirely on your character. If you're playing a chaotic-aligned character, you're not likely to give a damn and punch someone if they're bothering you. However, since that's pvp, they run into the 'dm absence' issue that ultimately results in the rule being exploited v.s protective.

[GoblinLoveChild]

Our PvP rules are in place and will not be changed at any time in the foreseeable future. We had to make them as they are now because the community showed time and time again that they could not handle PvP in a positive and mature way. Until we see a change that shows this is no longer true, the rules as they are now will remain.



perhaps this thread should be discussing how we as a communinity can improve our maturity in regards to pvp.

[SpiffyHas]

That's easy.

Have fun. Learn to enjoy loosing.