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Shantis

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The people of the woods
« on: July 03, 2018, 03:50:33 pm »
Sharing the concept of a group / community of characters. Tendency neutral, tending to offer an alternative means of roleplay, mainly because to play like druid or ranger requires a more anti-social stance with other normal groups in the current server setting... And to have a more isolated behavior of the other characters. The concept of nomadic tribe helps to decrease this, and also filling a gap.


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« Last Edit: July 03, 2018, 03:55:05 pm by Shantis »

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Re: The people of the woods
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2018, 04:23:31 pm »
I like the concept a lot, personally. And the explanation certainly helps give some context to the proclamations...

I would argue a few points on how the elves should be seen, though I may be biased as I am a member of the faction, so feel deee to take what I say with a grain of sat.

1) with a race that has lasted so long, and without the assistance/rule of the empire and after overthrowing the original creators, couldn’t elves be argued as the “most adaptable” ?
2) I wouldn’t say elves support human slavery, for such a thing is against elven customs and principles. We merely allow it to exist and not confront it. It could be argued that is a similar approach to how the “people of the woods” don’t involve themselves in it.
3) I would also argue that a lot of the “snobbishness” is the elves died with the sun elves leaving faerun. Modern elves, while they like to keep to themselves for the most part, don’t really have an inherent hatred to other races (other than orcs and maybe tieflings).

Again, I could be wrong, but that’s just my opinion on it, the post was very well thought out and organized!
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Re: The people of the woods
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Re: The people of the woods
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2018, 05:01:19 pm »
I like the concept a lot, personally. And the explanation certainly helps give some context to the proclamations...

I would argue a few points on how the elves should be seen, though I may be biased as I am a member of the faction, so feel deee to take what I say with a grain of sat.

1) with a race that has lasted so long, and without the assistance/rule of the empire and after overthrowing the original creators, couldn’t elves be argued as the “most adaptable” ?
2) I wouldn’t say elves support human slavery, for such a thing is against elven customs and principles. We merely allow it to exist and not confront it. It could be argued that is a similar approach to how the “people of the woods” don’t involve themselves in it.
3) I would also argue that a lot of the “snobbishness” is the elves died with the sun elves leaving faerun. Modern elves, while they like to keep to themselves for the most part, don’t really have an inherent hatred to other races (other than orcs and maybe tieflings).

Again, I could be wrong, but that’s just my opinion on it, the post was very well thought out and organized!

1 - Longevity, living inside of a bubble isolating itself from other communities is not a representation of survival or most adaptable. It is about a style of life as elitism, xenophoby and the way the elvens live distant of other races in they own distant piece of land, and you need an airship to visit them...

I am not speaking in terms of different elf sub-races and they story. I am presenting here a possible point of view of a tribal group, not of the whole human race about elves, but rather the impressions, points of view, and even misunderstandings that occurred during the development of the group as a community icly.

2 - In terms, the elves were not directly against the empire in an official position, but considered allies or have a truce between them in some level, but not take an official, directly stance against the slavery. More, the elvenkind, as race, take several advantages over humans in the empire

Several times, elves go to human cities to ask for help to hunt other species for the protection of elves and humans. And the elves place warnings, bans and restrictions on human individuals or noble houses officially as member of elven council. But so far, I have not seen Vastiir yet, the empire or noble houses putting itself directly against several elves as group or against its council and community. Roleplay impression after a lot of icly events to build this point of view.

So if an elven character goes to the magical proclamer in a human city, calling all adventurers humans, dwarfs, gnomes, hins, half-orcs, half-elven in a human city to hunt other creatures, icly, I'll consider it a kind of holy crusade against other species, using humans as cannon fodder, not to put the life of the elvenkind in risk. I would very much like the dms to take this consistent point of view in my case.

I have never seen a magical proclamation from Nulla'n asking for help to protect the elven people in their own lands. So in this part, it is easier to think that someone from elven people is on human lands using humans to kill the enemies of the elves, than the empire going to nulla'n to ask the elves to help protect themself. In terms of roleplay and social and political standpoint of some people, elves use humans as cannon folder.

3 - The impression humans have about elves. Not particularly about an official position of the elves all time or all place. Different races have different opinions about other species. Point of view as roleplayer.

Elven need not be loved and idolatred, being represented as the bastions of universal goodwill all the time over all races icly. Other races may see them as cruel and dangerous as humans.

« Last Edit: July 03, 2018, 05:12:20 pm by Shantis »

Violet De Camp

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Re: The people of the woods
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2018, 08:42:42 pm »
"So if an elven character goes to the magical proclamer ... to hunt other creatures, icly, I'll consider it a kind of holy crusade against other species, using humans as cannon fodder, not to put the life of the elvenkind in risk. I would very much like the dms to take this consistent point of view in my case."

I think there's a good point to be made there, sure. Depends on your world perspective. I'm sure the Wood People would definitely see that as the case, they hear the proclamations, feel the earth cry out, etc.

However... I don't think that should be the "universal" opinion of Tel-Quessir. Heck, the Tel-Quessir put forth troops to aid humans, and have time and again offered to send them to help the humans. Granted, none of those offers have been accepted, but at the Isle of Sauros, Tel-Quessir soldiers were present, and some (Both PCs and NPCs) accompanied the group in the vanguard. So I don't know if it would be fair to say that we merely hide behind them, especially when they were "invited" to join, as opposed to being coerced. Those that gave aid have even publicly been thanked for their assistance, so it's not as if Tel-Quessir "stole the glory" either.

Furthermore, you could argue that history is written by the victors. Because our campaigns have thus far been a success, and many innocents have been saved as a result. I'm sure there are many commoners who are thankful for the raids being sent out against those that prey upon them as they work the fields or travel the roads, as are those who have lost loved ones to such creatures and wish to see vengeance and/or judgement enacted upon them.

To have it viewed as a crusade may be appropriate, sure, I think that's entirely legitimate. However, that shouldn't necessarily mean it is viewed in a negative light.